DISQUS

Discovering Dad: What Moms Really Think About Physical Appearances

  • Piper · 1 year ago
    How it is that I managed to leave the shortest replies to all these questions is a huge mystery to me!! I was going for brief and to the point... dang!

    Great job ladies, and great answers!

    (Boys, just so you know, I KNOW that Ami James has been married 5 times... he's lacking that 'depth of character' bit that is the biggest turn on of all for me. But, damn if he isn't eye candy! )
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Short and sweet - we gotcha!
  • lusciousnis · 1 year ago
    What an awesome idea! I love that all these talented ladies had their input. Definitely some common threads, there. I find intelligence and wit very sexy. Nerds are HOT!
  • lasthome · 1 year ago
    It's odd, and I say this in an entirely objective way without narcissism and based on empirical evidence from other people, that I've apparently grown better looking as I've gotten older. According to others who've told me, I'm more attractive now at 41 than I was at 21 or 31 apparently. I don't personally see it, but that's what I hear. And it's odd how other women treat me now - not that they're falling at my feet, but there's a bit more interest here and there, which can feel odd. Either I've grown into my body (which like any other 40-yr-old has thickened in the middle) or my personality has simply evolved to the point it's more noticeable.

    My wife is still beautiful with or without makeup, which I try to tell her a lot but she doesn't really believe me :) I'd like to find ways to convince her she's still as or more attractive as when I first met her but it's difficult to find ways that truly sound sincere and don't sound fake or empty flattery. It's difficult to convince women that they are still attractive and sexy and all that after a certain age and amount of time..
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    40 is the new 20, or something like that... I agree that no matter what I tell my wife, she has a certain perception of how she looks, and I can't change it very much. Like you, I still try and tell her how beautiful she is as often as possible.
  • lasthome · 1 year ago
    Of course I could be basing my views on a few people who are actually out in left field in their opinions of me. I'll leave the truth for everyone else to decide ;)
  • Mr Lady · 1 year ago
    I am RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. I was cute at 21, but I have seriously improved with age.
  • Kim · 1 year ago
    I loved your response to this post.. because I do believe that older men get more attractive because their personalities have evolved.. And your last paragraph about your wife not believing you when you are trying to be sincere is exactly how it goes in my house. It is harder when you reach your mid 30's.. to feel like you can pull off sexy.. So it is not like we are downplaying your compliments because we still need them.. it is just harder for us to accept them.
  • Lin · 1 year ago
    Based on the reactions of the ladies in this post, it's obvious that what is "hot" is different for every woman or man.

    I just looked at the picture of you with your son, and I'd say you're still hot, even if you don't think so because of putting on a little weight or getting a bit older.

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. As we age our bodies change, gravity sets in (dang it!), we develop lines on our face etc. Sucks big time, but it happens.

    I don't personally believe that weight fluctuations take away "hotness" at all, but I don't advocate obesity either. Personally, I'm more turned off by a "sloppy appearance", just throwing on the ol' sweats and ratty ol' T-shirt, not even trying to present an attractive/appealing look.

    Sometimes I wonder if married people get the idea that once the wedding ring goes on the finger and ink on the marriage license dries, all the effort that used to be put into making ourselves look nice for ourselves and our spouse is suddenly no longer important. Time passes and people start Googling "how to keep the fire alive in your marriage". Duh.............. :)
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Thanks Lin (for the comment and the confidence boost ;-))! Personally, I never like to leave the house without looking half-way decent. It just makes me feel better and more confident. You definitely would not see me struttin' my stuff in biker shorts, a belly shirt and a head band.
  • Joe · 1 year ago
    All I know is that without my looks, especially my hair, I have little to offer this world of ours. LMAO! Dude, looks are important, but attitude is everything. My wife is sexier now that ever before because we are just more in tune with each other and that has little or nothing to do with looks. I mean we are still uber hot to each other and that will always be enough for us. I may be weird but I am way into my wife.

    Oh, and I loved reading all these responses...even Mr. Lady's (she just killed me in a braid off). They all speak of the truth, which men generally can't focus as much initially, but we always seem to come around eventually. What can I say, women are just smarter when it comes to this issue. Period.
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Joe's hair deserves to be cast and bronzed for all to revere!
  • simplyChuck · 1 year ago
    OK. This has been encouraging. To recap for myself, looks are less about appearance and more about actions. What we do and how we act has the ability to make us look better or worse. Nice, because there is little I can do about my balding pate but I can certainly better the ol' attitude and outlook.

    I love Mr. Lady's response. It is as true and complete a response to this question as I have ever read. The point that our effort at keeping ourself in some desirable shape is a sign of respect and love is an awesome one.

    I only really know two things for sure:

    1. My wife is the most beautiful person I know (inside and out).
    2. I look my best when my wife is by my side.
  • Mr Lady · 1 year ago
    Thanks, Chuck. I had a really funny reply written, but I scraped it for this one, and am slightly regretting it. Glad it made a little sense. :)
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Do you want me to post your original reply, or part of it here in the comments?
  • Mr Lady · 1 year ago
    Nah, It's fine the way it is. And Lonf Winded is just how the cool kid roll. ;)
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    I feel the same way Chuck! You are wise my friend. My kids make me look better too.
  • Mr Lady · 1 year ago
    One: I am too lonf-winded. Grrr. Two: I shoulda stuck with my first reply, huh? Grrr..
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    "Lonf-winded" sound painful ;p

    Note to readers - don't these panelists rock!?! This answer was great!
  • BusyDad · 1 year ago
    I love this. I have always heard that women don't care as much about physical appearance than men, but then again I only heard it from men (or men's mags), so I never really believed it. It was great to read this direct from 5 really different women (who are all very cool and very unique in their own way). Oh tangent -- you five would make a KICK ASS version of The View. Hell, I'd stay home and eat bon bons and not get a job if you all had a show. Ok, back on track. I think the men's mags are right to some extent - women really don't care AS MUCH about physical appearance as men do. But I can see from these answers that although letting yourself go won't get you dumped, taking some time and effort to try to look good does not go unnoticed or unappreciated. Good to know.
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    I'd love to see these 5 ladies on a talk show. Maybe you and PG could film it and I'll produce it for an Internet television series. I'd watch that! Then, we could do a similar show with dads. Hell, we could start a whole friggin' parenting chanell - call it SPN (Smartass Parenting Network). What do you think?
  • Kim · 1 year ago
    Umm.. you should go buy that domain name now.. (I am a dork and checked it for you)
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Thanks Kim! Don't you think that would be fun? I think people would watch that. Heck - Mr Lady and Joeprah could have their own braiding show with celebrity challenges, and you know there'd be at least 30 minutes worth of W8 loss Wednesday stuff between BD, PG, Scott, me and Nuke Dad. It would be a blast!
  • jason · 1 year ago
    As I suspected it appears that the definition of HOT varies from woman to woman. Based on what the ladies say though, appearances are not as important as character. And I agree. However, I do believe that husbands and wives should at least make some kind of effort to look good for their mate. Many changes in our appearances are inevitable with age, but there are ways to work with what you got.

    I'm eagerly looking forward to tomorrow's post.
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    You better work...sorry, flashback...right on Jason! You've definitely got to do the best you can with what you've got - it sends a good message to your partner when you show the effort to take care of yourself.
  • ocean · 1 year ago
    Re; men getting hotter as they age... there's something sooo reptilian brain that (at 38) makes me look at a 50-year-old and get turned on (no, not all 50-somethings, just some).... it's the silverback banging on his chest thing, right? Evolution says pick the biggest and the strongest and the one who's proven himself- inevitably, that's an older man. Evolution tells men to pick the woman most likely to be fertile/have healthy offspring. Hence, older man/younger woman scenarios. I'm not saying it's right- just saying it might be lurking..... enjoying the posts!
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Oh, the primitive things that lovers do...I just like that you used the word "reptilian" - it sounds exciting :-) Thanks for the comment!
  • cory at agoodhusband · 1 year ago
    for some reason I don't understand my wife is more attracted to me now than she was when we got married. Makes me happy, though!
  • Mr Lady · 1 year ago
    It's because she's more comfortable with you. That's it. You wash someone's boxers enough, and you assume you can take some liberties. :)
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Yeah, the comfort factor definitely adds to the attraction for me. I know I can be myself around my wife, looks aside, and that makes me feel great about us!
  • lasthome · 1 year ago
    Here's another direction this question could take - ladies:

    1) On a scale of 1-10, how attractive did you consider your man when you first dated/were married? Not how attractive you think he was, but how attractive he was to you....

    2) On a scale of 1-10, after say ten years, has that number changed for you? Do you think it's changed in his outward appearance to others?

    3) On a scale of 1-10, how bout those of you out there after 15 or more years? Same? More? Less? Is he more attractive to you now with years, grey, maturity, experience, etc?

    I think that's what husbands want to know and be confident of - not whether they're necessarily still (or more) good-looking, attractive or sexy to the world in general, but that their wives are still as or more attracted to them after all the years, kids, jobs, headaches, arguments, vacations, school, moves, 2nd jobs, makeups, flirtations, etc. And if the answer is "less", what can we do to rekindle that attraction?
  • Mr Lady · 1 year ago
    1) 4,296. That boys was smokin'. He was also an absolute (can I swear here?) Motheryouknowwhater. Cocky, jerk, playa. But his abs, man? It makes me drool just thinking about it.

    2) 4,296. For a totally different reason. The abs are but a distant memory, but he's nice now. He's matured and settled and is lovely in every way. He's still crazy hot, but just not rock hard like he used to be. His insides, though? Delectable.

    3) We're at 12 1/2 years. The grey hair is my favorite. The experience and the stability is a huge turn on.

    I am definitely more attracted to him now than I have ever been. We have sailed some rocky seas, he and I, and coming out standing on the other side has made us closer.
  • Kim · 1 year ago
    I loved reading the ladies answers here..But my favorite part of this is watching the "gentlemen" respond to the post. Great idea Jeremy.. um.. does that make is like the 500th time I have told you this.. :)
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Yes, but appreciate never gets old ;-)
  • Jojo · 1 year ago
    I totally agree with Lori, I contemplate over my physical appearance WAY more than my husband's. We've definitely gained pounds together after we got together, but somehow his pudge is more attractive than mine :(. I've been working on losing the baby weight, and even though I get close to my pre-baby size, it's just not the same anymore you know? My husband's like I already got you so I can get fat if I want. But we are working on our diet together, it's less intimidating that way because we have the same goal and then nobody's feelings will be hurt like in a you're fatter than me kind of way.
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    I think it's great you guys are working on losing weight together. It always helps to have your partner on board with things, otherwise it makes for a more difficult process. Great comment!
  • Xbox4NappyRash · 1 year ago
    Appearances MUST mean nothing, if they did I would simply never, ever have gotten la...er married.

    People DO end up with appropriate physical matches though, I can attest to that.
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Don't sell yourself short dude - you've got style, smarts and wit! Sounds like if you can make a woman laugh, it goes a long way (except when your naked - not sure any of them have answered that part yet :)).
  • MommyTime · 1 year ago
    Can I add a spin to this without being a downer? It's true that brains matter a WHOLE lot more than looks -- brains + sense of humor + thoughtfulness + creativity = hot. HOWEVER, as someone whose husband has gained and lost many tens of pounds since we've been married, I can also say with certainty that when you (a man) don't feel good about your own appearance, when your self-confidence dips, so does our marital satisfaction. It's not that there is some absolute weight that is "right" or some body type that is the "only" sexy one, but self-confidence and a sense of happiness within one's self (at whatever weight or level of buff-ness) is really really REALLY key. My husband has two herniated disks, and when he gains weight, it's hard to lose because extra weight = even more back pain = even less ability to exercise = more weight gain... you can see the cycle. Recently, he's lost 30 pounds, though, and he is so much happier within himself that our marriage is SOOO much happier as a result. I don't mean just the gettin' nekkid part, either. I mean, we have better conversations, we do more together as a family, we are happier all around.

    So I don't think that looks alone are important, nor do they outweigh (sorry about the pun, can't find another better word) personal qualities, but I do think that looks can have an effect on personality that should not be ignored. Find the "look" and level of being in shape that makes you feel good about yourself, and we will want to jump your bones AND talk to you afterwards.
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Why would you think that comment is being a downer? That was a great comment, and it makes perfect sense. I know that my current weight loss efforts are more for my own self-confidence than my wife's satisfaction, even though I want her to think I'm hot too! Look good = feel good = relate good = marriage good. It's all GOOD! :-)
  • Shinade · 1 year ago
    This is an excellent post. As you know I have been away for a while and have missed much. I will definitely try to get back through the entire series.

    My husband and I have been married for almost 27 years now. He is 62 and I am 51. When we first met, I was always considered somewhat of a hottie. I was a slim size 7. Large bust, small waist, and nice hips. Now I am a size 12. And the waist line has thickened and I do have a few wrinkles that I would like to erase.

    As for my husband, he too was very attractive. Tall, out doorsy type. He could have been The Marlboro Man, if any of you are old enough to remember those billboards with the gourgeous cowboy. He had lush thick hair and still wore the same size jeans as he did as a teen. Tall, slim, and extremely handsome. Now he is balding just a wee bit in the front, his beard is graying, and his jeans have moved from a 32 to a 34 and sometimes 36 waist. And, he too has his fair share of wrinkles.

    But he is still the apple of my eye. And I his. And, he is just as attactive to me after coming in from working out in the yard, or, just getting back from being on the road. He doesn't have to dress up, slick down, and try to impress me. And, I am grateful that he feels the same towards me.

    Some of our best love making has not been when we are all spiffed up for each other. Rather, for us it is the unexpected times that just pop up. Those are truly the best love making times. At least for us. Don't get me wrong it's good all of the time. But, those unexpected surprises, a simple touch or glance, that is exchanged between us, and we know, we feel the very same strong pull that we felt when we met 27 years ago, those are the best moments to share for us.

    Yes I do see other men that I do find attractive. I even have upon occasion run across a few that tempted me into wondering. By that I mean I have experienced that magnetic sexual attraction for others since our marriage. But, I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that no one other than my husband can satisfy me sexually better than he.

    So we have been blessed with a love that is blind to our aging. We are forever young in each other's eyes. And, we were also blessed to be each other's perfect match sexually. Our desire for each other is as strong as it ever was. And, let me tell you something about getting older together. The better you get to know your partner, well, wow...the better it gets.
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Shinade - I'm so glad to see you back! This was an excellent addition, and I really appreciate you sharing with us! You are always honest and generous with your insights. I really like what you say at the end - it gives me even more to look forward to with Lori!
  • tony · 1 year ago
    okay, this is a little dorky, but I've always thought of relationships in terms of my "3 C's" - chemistry, compatibility, and character.

    character - stuff like...can I trust this person? how does she treat her annoying friend?
    compatibility - stuff like... do we hold the same values? do we care about some of the same things?
    chemistry - stuff like... am I attracted to this person? is there that "spark?"

    So I think appearances matter, but they're only 1/3 of the bigger picture. (likewise, I don't think we can only look at one of the other C's in isolation)
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Tony's 3C's - sounds like a good blog post! Let us know if you write it ;-)
  • tmanettas · 1 year ago
    love this!! What great relationship topics-I like that you have ladies from all walks of the relationship spectrum!! CANNOT wait for tomorrow!
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    Yeah - they al-yight :-)
  • terri · 1 year ago
    I LOVE this! I'm so glad Mr. Lady steered me over here. Such awesome insight from some fantastic bloggers.
  • OHmommy · 1 year ago
    Great answers from all the women and nice discussion you have going here. I seem to agree with Mr. Lady, after 8 years of marriage, I feel so comfortable around my husband. But I am not sure if he appreciates me going braless in sweats at night. (Not a pretty site after three kids) Perhaps I should hide my Cros tonight and be a little fancy.... might spark a memory of when we first met.
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    I've grown to like the comfortable look with Lori - we're at 9 years next month - and I like that she feels comfortable around me and vice versus. At home, it nice to just be - you know?
  • MommyCosm · 1 year ago
    I think that, as a rule, men get better looking when they get older. They can put on 20 extra pounds and wear it well. Also, nothing is more attractive than watching your husband be a great dad to your kids. The gray hair even looks somewhat distinguished.

    I know in my circle of friends, most of us women have to work much harder to maintain our looks as the years go by. We worry and stress about how we look and we don't really notice if our husbands have let themselves go a bit.
  • jnbammer · 1 year ago
    I'm a tall guy - 6' 3" - and people tell me all the time that I "carry my weight well" (this is not directed at you MommyCosm, but)...what are they smokin? Are they just looking at me from the front? Obviously, they haven't seen the two balloons stuffed in the back of my pants, or the pear-shaped side view! Carry my weight well? I guess, if you mean I don't fall over and roll away.

    Sorry MommyCosm, I had to get that off my chest. It's not you....it's me ;-)
  • tmanettas · 1 year ago
    Grrrowwlllll......

    Looks! That's what got the party started! At least for both my husband and myself; we met in a Hot Tub.

    But, in hindsight we should have been a tad more honest that those looks would most def change. I wouldn't always have a prebaby tummy(and admittedly now-never will have that prebaby tummy) He wouldn't always have the sexy beach volleyball 6 pack. Which is cool. I would say that for us, I obsess about my looks and Mr.T SO DOES NOT. Like Mrs.DD said-my look is much more cultivated and takes mass amounts of planning. Makeup, workouts, passing on margaritas and going for the vodka and club soda instead. Expensive jeans to conceal saddlebags, top notch bras to get that rack back on it's shelf. Sucking in, standing tall......but y'know what makes me feel better than turning strangers heads at the bar-the fact that Mr.T notices NO DIFFERENCE. NOT A ONE. Cut off sweats, tank tops braless, no makeup, hair all crazylike, 1 inch long leg hair-no nig thang to him. So why do I go through all that? For me. It makes me feel pretty, which makes me happy then everyone catches the happiness.